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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-13217</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Simple Solution:

But there is a simple method, that has been proven, that could address these issues. It would be incredibly easy to implement and benefit the vast majority of people in this country.

That system would be for the Government to charge a ‘rent’ for the natural resources used.

Such rents, based on an annual tax of what someone is prepared to pay for the service commercially, would be as follows:

1.        unimproved land value, based on its rental value, very easy to calculate.
2.       Water rent on abstraction, based on what an auction of water abstraction licenses would fetch on the open market
3.       Taxes on raw materials extraction such as salt, coal or oil equal to the rent someone would pay a landowner for the contract to operate such a business (natural resources extracted outside the UK would pay the tax on import). An estimate of resource use would be placed on all categories of imports such a TV’s fridges, food etc. and placed on those imports. This would be all done by importers and be audited just like VAT and other duties (which it would replace)
4.       While pollution laws would still be enforced, minor pollutants that fall below the scope of the law such as sewage, farm/industrial waste would be paid by the polluter based on the rent of a business operating such a disposal service. So the cost of putting X tonnes of nitrates on Y type of land would cost a water company Z to clean out of our drinking water. The cost Z would be levied on the landowner  on the fertilizer used.

Why this system would work:

1.       easily understood
2.       very easy to measure (and because its market based it is not vulnerable to distortion or corruption)
3.       very easy to collect
4.       impossible to avoid
5.       obeys all the modern ideas on economic efficiency
6.       Will not affect the wider economy as it is inelastic in supply
7.       Can offset other taxes – thus creating rural jobs and prosperity (this is all to do with lowering the margin of production see below)
8.       Helps regulate overuse of natural resource as it provides a negative feedback loop as rent increases as supply decreases
9.       As it is a yearly rent it will adapt to changes in the economy, as the economy grows so does the rental charge in line with the economy (Ricardo’s Law of Rent)  this would have the added benefit of buffering the effects of booms and recessions

The problems faced in implementation:

1.       The privileged elite:
Those who own the right to our natural resources are often very powerful financially and politically. These natural resource owners receive huge private rents for the ability to exploit,  pollute and use natural resources and would use all their power to stop any such proposal making it into law. I often think the biggest hurdle would be that many of our current squire-archy, who send their sons to Sandhurst, would baying for a Coup d&#039;état

2.       It would not tackle all externalities – we would still need pollution laws and wildlife protection laws for rare habitats and wildlife

3.       Legal changes in land and resource tenure – we would need legal mechanisms for land to be held in trust for the nation so it could receive tax breaks for those looking to recreate wilderness and high extensive natural grazing systems while at the same time allowing a landowner, private or collective, to retain the right to be steward and protector of that land

4.       Public misunderstanding – most people do not have the economic knowledge to understand these concepts and would find it hard to support them. Especially when faced by the massive lobbying efforts by those vested interests wishing to protect their monopoly and the ability to take private income from the loss of wildlife and natural resources.

Many people would need a lot of help understanding the beneficial effects of changing our system of taxation from taxes on earned income to unearned income and natural resources.

lowering the margin of production

This is the most important concept for rural businesses,  extensive farmers and wildlife managers. Because there is a tax break for jobs and not assets such as tractors and fertilizers (and they now reflect some of the externalities of their production) many more rural, farming, leisure and wildlife conservation jobs would be created.  This is because less profitable work would now become feasible and people could get a living wage.

The above is not my sole synthesis but based on the learning I have been doing for many years by learning from the great economists from Smith to Stiglitz, and of course Henry George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Simple Solution:</p>
<p>But there is a simple method, that has been proven, that could address these issues. It would be incredibly easy to implement and benefit the vast majority of people in this country.</p>
<p>That system would be for the Government to charge a ‘rent’ for the natural resources used.</p>
<p>Such rents, based on an annual tax of what someone is prepared to pay for the service commercially, would be as follows:</p>
<p>1.        unimproved land value, based on its rental value, very easy to calculate.<br />
2.       Water rent on abstraction, based on what an auction of water abstraction licenses would fetch on the open market<br />
3.       Taxes on raw materials extraction such as salt, coal or oil equal to the rent someone would pay a landowner for the contract to operate such a business (natural resources extracted outside the UK would pay the tax on import). An estimate of resource use would be placed on all categories of imports such a TV’s fridges, food etc. and placed on those imports. This would be all done by importers and be audited just like VAT and other duties (which it would replace)<br />
4.       While pollution laws would still be enforced, minor pollutants that fall below the scope of the law such as sewage, farm/industrial waste would be paid by the polluter based on the rent of a business operating such a disposal service. So the cost of putting X tonnes of nitrates on Y type of land would cost a water company Z to clean out of our drinking water. The cost Z would be levied on the landowner  on the fertilizer used.</p>
<p>Why this system would work:</p>
<p>1.       easily understood<br />
2.       very easy to measure (and because its market based it is not vulnerable to distortion or corruption)<br />
3.       very easy to collect<br />
4.       impossible to avoid<br />
5.       obeys all the modern ideas on economic efficiency<br />
6.       Will not affect the wider economy as it is inelastic in supply<br />
7.       Can offset other taxes – thus creating rural jobs and prosperity (this is all to do with lowering the margin of production see below)<br />
8.       Helps regulate overuse of natural resource as it provides a negative feedback loop as rent increases as supply decreases<br />
9.       As it is a yearly rent it will adapt to changes in the economy, as the economy grows so does the rental charge in line with the economy (Ricardo’s Law of Rent)  this would have the added benefit of buffering the effects of booms and recessions</p>
<p>The problems faced in implementation:</p>
<p>1.       The privileged elite:<br />
Those who own the right to our natural resources are often very powerful financially and politically. These natural resource owners receive huge private rents for the ability to exploit,  pollute and use natural resources and would use all their power to stop any such proposal making it into law. I often think the biggest hurdle would be that many of our current squire-archy, who send their sons to Sandhurst, would baying for a Coup d&#8217;état</p>
<p>2.       It would not tackle all externalities – we would still need pollution laws and wildlife protection laws for rare habitats and wildlife</p>
<p>3.       Legal changes in land and resource tenure – we would need legal mechanisms for land to be held in trust for the nation so it could receive tax breaks for those looking to recreate wilderness and high extensive natural grazing systems while at the same time allowing a landowner, private or collective, to retain the right to be steward and protector of that land</p>
<p>4.       Public misunderstanding – most people do not have the economic knowledge to understand these concepts and would find it hard to support them. Especially when faced by the massive lobbying efforts by those vested interests wishing to protect their monopoly and the ability to take private income from the loss of wildlife and natural resources.</p>
<p>Many people would need a lot of help understanding the beneficial effects of changing our system of taxation from taxes on earned income to unearned income and natural resources.</p>
<p>lowering the margin of production</p>
<p>This is the most important concept for rural businesses,  extensive farmers and wildlife managers. Because there is a tax break for jobs and not assets such as tractors and fertilizers (and they now reflect some of the externalities of their production) many more rural, farming, leisure and wildlife conservation jobs would be created.  This is because less profitable work would now become feasible and people could get a living wage.</p>
<p>The above is not my sole synthesis but based on the learning I have been doing for many years by learning from the great economists from Smith to Stiglitz, and of course Henry George.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Shanahan</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-13145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Shanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of the reports Fred cites are available as free PDFs to download from the IIED and PCLG websites.

http://pubs.iied.org/G02770.html


http://povertyandconservation.info/docs/20100901-Does_Conserving_Biodiversity_Work_to_Reduce_Poverty.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of the reports Fred cites are available as free PDFs to download from the IIED and PCLG websites.</p>
<p><a href="http://pubs.iied.org/G02770.html" rel="nofollow">http://pubs.iied.org/G02770.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://povertyandconservation.info/docs/20100901-Does_Conserving_Biodiversity_Work_to_Reduce_Poverty.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://povertyandconservation.info/docs/20100901-Does_Conserving_Biodiversity_Work_to_Reduce_Poverty.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: SeEtta Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-13109</link>
		<dc:creator>SeEtta Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not excusing our failure to find methodologies that will link those poor living nearby with some share of the value of these protected areas, if we don&#039;t protect these areas the natural resources on which these folks rely will be depleted and they will still end up on the losing end just a little later.  Sounds like there is a need to engage some of those critical social scientists into collaborating with conservationists to come up with some viable plans that not only protect the natural resources but provide mechanisms for sustainable lifestyles for locals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not excusing our failure to find methodologies that will link those poor living nearby with some share of the value of these protected areas, if we don&#8217;t protect these areas the natural resources on which these folks rely will be depleted and they will still end up on the losing end just a little later.  Sounds like there is a need to engage some of those critical social scientists into collaborating with conservationists to come up with some viable plans that not only protect the natural resources but provide mechanisms for sustainable lifestyles for locals.</p>
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		<title>By: Altaire</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-13055</link>
		<dc:creator>Altaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred,

Eco-tourism, thought to be the panacea for so many integrated conservation and development projects, is not the without many issues, as you have outlined above.  I was recently in Belize where the barrier reef, the second largest in the world, may be resting upon a large oil reserve.  Unless organizations come together and compensate Belize(in cash) for its bountiful eco-system, the reef is in a very tenuous position.

I currently work for an environmental magazine, Izilwane, that focuses on the anthropology of conservation.  I think you will find the following article interesting.  Thanks so much!

http://www.izilwane.org/tourist-traps-and-security-situations.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred,</p>
<p>Eco-tourism, thought to be the panacea for so many integrated conservation and development projects, is not the without many issues, as you have outlined above.  I was recently in Belize where the barrier reef, the second largest in the world, may be resting upon a large oil reserve.  Unless organizations come together and compensate Belize(in cash) for its bountiful eco-system, the reef is in a very tenuous position.</p>
<p>I currently work for an environmental magazine, Izilwane, that focuses on the anthropology of conservation.  I think you will find the following article interesting.  Thanks so much!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.izilwane.org/tourist-traps-and-security-situations.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.izilwane.org/tourist-traps-and-security-situations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jay mazoomdaar</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-8711</link>
		<dc:creator>jay mazoomdaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 15:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took Fred Pearce and Conservation mag and 3000+ words to tell us that the poor don&#039;t get their fare share. Of course, we didn&#039;t know that! I was really excited and read the piece hoping to learn something about how protected biodiversity does not yield enough revenue (to justify conservation) unless plundered. After 15 minutes, I re-learnt that revenue was generated alright but it did not reach the poor. Was anyone under the illusion that it did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took Fred Pearce and Conservation mag and 3000+ words to tell us that the poor don&#8217;t get their fare share. Of course, we didn&#8217;t know that! I was really excited and read the piece hoping to learn something about how protected biodiversity does not yield enough revenue (to justify conservation) unless plundered. After 15 minutes, I re-learnt that revenue was generated alright but it did not reach the poor. Was anyone under the illusion that it did?</p>
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		<title>By: Watershed Organisation Trust (WOTR)</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-5525</link>
		<dc:creator>Watershed Organisation Trust (WOTR)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. As we&#039;ve discovered at Watershed Organisation Trust, after more than a decade of highly successful watershed development work in rural India, is that the social component must be given just as much attention as the environmental. The beginning of that is we do pay villagers to do the labor necessary to improve their watersheds. Then they make greater profits from their improved crop yields. But additionally we provide micro-finance loans to villagers through committees of women, which empowers the women and stimulates small business opportunities for villagers. We also educate villagers about their political rights and help them organize accordingly. As environmentalists it can be easy for us to focus on the environmental and forget about the human, but both must be engaged in order to achieve true sustainability. 

Check us out at www.facebook.com/Watersheds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. As we&#8217;ve discovered at Watershed Organisation Trust, after more than a decade of highly successful watershed development work in rural India, is that the social component must be given just as much attention as the environmental. The beginning of that is we do pay villagers to do the labor necessary to improve their watersheds. Then they make greater profits from their improved crop yields. But additionally we provide micro-finance loans to villagers through committees of women, which empowers the women and stimulates small business opportunities for villagers. We also educate villagers about their political rights and help them organize accordingly. As environmentalists it can be easy for us to focus on the environmental and forget about the human, but both must be engaged in order to achieve true sustainability. </p>
<p>Check us out at <a href="http://www.facebook.com/Watersheds" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/Watersheds</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Murky Future of Conservation - Michael Tobias - Green Conversations - Forbes</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/conservation-and-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-4047</link>
		<dc:creator>The Murky Future of Conservation - Michael Tobias - Green Conversations - Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writes on the implications of the QME or Quaternary Megafauna Extinction and why you should care; Fred Pearce describes the fact that to-date, there is little known evidence that the protection of biodiversity can come [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] writes on the implications of the QME or Quaternary Megafauna Extinction and why you should care; Fred Pearce describes the fact that to-date, there is little known evidence that the protection of biodiversity can come [...]</p>
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